Would Fujitsus corporate culture really allow this to work?
If so, is information-technology supplier consolidation
good for i.t. end-users, too, or only for i.t. stock-holders?
-- Ben R.
Edmund Klamann wrote:
> Fujitsu confirms IBM alliance talks
>
> Thursday, October 18, 2001 at 18:30 JST
>
> (Reuters) TOKYO -- Fujitsu Ltd, Japans largest computer company, said
> on Thursday it was in wide-ranging talks with International Business
> Machines Corp on possible cooperation in such areas as software and
> computer servers.
>
> It stressed, however, that no decisions had been made on any specific
> areas of cooperation or the timing of an agreement.
>
> Japans computer and chip conglomerates are actively pursuing
> alliances and restructuring schemes as they struggle with a steep
> downturn in chip and electronics sales and jostle for position in
> Japans fast-growing computer software and services market.
>
> "Both companies have begun to explore the possibility of alliances in
> individual business areas and cooperation in a wide array of fields,
> including hardware and software," Fujitsu said in a statement.
>
> Fujitsu and IBMs Japanese unit are among the leading providers of
> systems integration and other computer services to corporations and
> institutions in Japan.
>
> But competition has been heating up as rivals aggressively target the
> sectors relatively healthy profit margins while distancing themselves
> from the volatile chip business.
>
> "I think Fujitsu is probably losing market share in the systems
> integration business to NEC, IBM and perhaps Hitachi as well," said
> Scott Foster, analyst at Lehman Brothers.
>
> "NECs got a very aggressive partner strategy with Oracle and
> Microsoft, and they sell Intel architecture products, and Hitachi
> works closely with Oracle and IBM and of course theyre doing very
> well in data storage now."
>
> NEC Corp , Japans largest personal computer maker, earlier this week
> announced an alliance with software powerhouse Microsoft Corp to
> jointly develop high-end computer server systems and services.
>
> Hitachi Ltd , which earlier this year inked a deal with IBM to
> cooperate in computer servers, has seen rapid growth this year in its
> data storage network business.
>
> And Oracle Corp Japan , the Japanese unit of software giant Oracle
> Corp., has posted strong profit growth this year fueled by brisk
> demand for business software and services.
>
> Some industry executives and analysts have said Fujitsu appeared less
> willing than rival computer services providers to package other firms
> products into the systems it sells. This could prevent it from
> offering the best product for a given system.
>
> "I think the trends have generally been against Fujitsu. The reason
> is probably they have tried too much to go it alone," Lehman Brothers
> Foster said.
>
> The Nihon Keizai Shimbun business daily said Fujitsu and IBM could cut
> costs by more than 30 billion yen ($247.5 million) through joint
> software development, while IBM may share its personal computer server
> technology with the Japanese company.
>
> The market smiled upon news of the talks, with Fujitsus shares
> trading 0.5 percent higher, despite a drop of more than two percent in
> the benchmark Nikkei average.
>
> Hitachis shares slid 4.83 percent to 867 yen. (Reuters News)
Fujitsu+IBM versus NEC+Microsoft
Dont know if anyone remembers it, but Fujitsu WAS a pick player a number of years ago.
Lee Bacall
Binary Star Development Corporation
http://www.binarystar.com
Voice 954/791-8575 Fax 954/584-4567
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:52 PM
Subject: OT: Fujitsu+IBM versus NEC+Microsoft
> Would Fujitsus corporate culture really allow this to work? If so, is
> information-technology supplier consolidation good for i.t. end-users,
> too, or only for i.t. stock-holders?
> -- Ben R.
>
> Edmund Klamann wrote:
> > Fujitsu confirms IBM alliance talks
> >
> > Thursday, October 18, 2001 at 18:30 JST
> >
> > (Reuters) TOKYO -- Fujitsu Ltd, Japans largest computer company,
> > said on Thursday it was in wide-ranging talks with International
> > Business Machines Corp on possible cooperation in such areas as
> > software and computer servers.
> >
> > It stressed, however, that no decisions had been made on any
> > specific areas of cooperation or the timing of an agreement.
> >
> > Japans computer and chip conglomerates are actively pursuing
> > alliances and restructuring schemes as they struggle with a steep
> > downturn in chip and electronics sales and jostle for position in
> > Japans fast-growing computer software and services market.
> >
> > "Both companies have begun to explore the possibility of alliances
> > in individual business areas and cooperation in a wide array of
> > fields, including hardware and software," Fujitsu said in a
> > statement.
> >
> > Fujitsu and IBMs Japanese unit are among the leading providers of
> > systems integration and other computer services to corporations and
> > institutions in Japan.
> >
> > But competition has been heating up as rivals aggressively target
> > the sectors relatively healthy profit margins while distancing
> > themselves from the volatile chip business.
> >
> > "I think Fujitsu is probably losing market share in the systems
> > integration business to NEC, IBM and perhaps Hitachi as well," said
> > Scott Foster, analyst at Lehman Brothers.
> >
> > "NECs got a very aggressive partner strategy with Oracle and
> > Microsoft, and they sell Intel architecture products, and Hitachi
> > works closely with Oracle and IBM and of course theyre doing very
> > well in data storage now."
> >
> > NEC Corp , Japans largest personal computer maker, earlier this
> > week announced an alliance with software powerhouse Microsoft Corp
> > to jointly develop high-end computer server systems and services.
> >
> > Hitachi Ltd , which earlier this year inked a deal with IBM to
> > cooperate in computer servers, has seen rapid growth this year in
> > its data storage network business.
> >
> > And Oracle Corp Japan , the Japanese unit of software giant Oracle
> > Corp., has posted strong profit growth this year fueled by brisk
> > demand for business software and services.
> >
> > Some industry executives and analysts have said Fujitsu appeared
> > less willing than rival computer services providers to package other
> > firms products into the systems it sells. This could prevent it
> > from offering the best product for a given system.
> >
> > "I think the trends have generally been against Fujitsu. The reason
> > is probably they have tried too much to go it alone," Lehman
> > Brothers Foster said.
> >
> > The Nihon Keizai Shimbun business daily said Fujitsu and IBM could
> > cut costs by more than 30 billion yen ($247.5 million) through joint
> > software development, while IBM may share its personal computer
> > server technology with the Japanese company.
> >
> > The market smiled upon news of the talks, with Fujitsus shares
> > trading 0.5 percent higher, despite a drop of more than two percent
> > in the benchmark Nikkei average.
> >
> > Hitachis shares slid 4.83 percent to 867 yen. (Reuters News)
>
Lee Bacall
Binary Star Development Corporation
http://www.binarystar.com
Voice 954/791-8575 Fax 954/584-4567
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:52 PM
Subject: OT: Fujitsu+IBM versus NEC+Microsoft
> Would Fujitsus corporate culture really allow this to work? If so, is
> information-technology supplier consolidation good for i.t. end-users,
> too, or only for i.t. stock-holders?
> -- Ben R.
>
> Edmund Klamann wrote:
> > Fujitsu confirms IBM alliance talks
> >
> > Thursday, October 18, 2001 at 18:30 JST
> >
> > (Reuters) TOKYO -- Fujitsu Ltd, Japans largest computer company,
> > said on Thursday it was in wide-ranging talks with International
> > Business Machines Corp on possible cooperation in such areas as
> > software and computer servers.
> >
> > It stressed, however, that no decisions had been made on any
> > specific areas of cooperation or the timing of an agreement.
> >
> > Japans computer and chip conglomerates are actively pursuing
> > alliances and restructuring schemes as they struggle with a steep
> > downturn in chip and electronics sales and jostle for position in
> > Japans fast-growing computer software and services market.
> >
> > "Both companies have begun to explore the possibility of alliances
> > in individual business areas and cooperation in a wide array of
> > fields, including hardware and software," Fujitsu said in a
> > statement.
> >
> > Fujitsu and IBMs Japanese unit are among the leading providers of
> > systems integration and other computer services to corporations and
> > institutions in Japan.
> >
> > But competition has been heating up as rivals aggressively target
> > the sectors relatively healthy profit margins while distancing
> > themselves from the volatile chip business.
> >
> > "I think Fujitsu is probably losing market share in the systems
> > integration business to NEC, IBM and perhaps Hitachi as well," said
> > Scott Foster, analyst at Lehman Brothers.
> >
> > "NECs got a very aggressive partner strategy with Oracle and
> > Microsoft, and they sell Intel architecture products, and Hitachi
> > works closely with Oracle and IBM and of course theyre doing very
> > well in data storage now."
> >
> > NEC Corp , Japans largest personal computer maker, earlier this
> > week announced an alliance with software powerhouse Microsoft Corp
> > to jointly develop high-end computer server systems and services.
> >
> > Hitachi Ltd , which earlier this year inked a deal with IBM to
> > cooperate in computer servers, has seen rapid growth this year in
> > its data storage network business.
> >
> > And Oracle Corp Japan , the Japanese unit of software giant Oracle
> > Corp., has posted strong profit growth this year fueled by brisk
> > demand for business software and services.
> >
> > Some industry executives and analysts have said Fujitsu appeared
> > less willing than rival computer services providers to package other
> > firms products into the systems it sells. This could prevent it
> > from offering the best product for a given system.
> >
> > "I think the trends have generally been against Fujitsu. The reason
> > is probably they have tried too much to go it alone," Lehman
> > Brothers Foster said.
> >
> > The Nihon Keizai Shimbun business daily said Fujitsu and IBM could
> > cut costs by more than 30 billion yen ($247.5 million) through joint
> > software development, while IBM may share its personal computer
> > server technology with the Japanese company.
> >
> > The market smiled upon news of the talks, with Fujitsus shares
> > trading 0.5 percent higher, despite a drop of more than two percent
> > in the benchmark Nikkei average.
> >
> > Hitachis shares slid 4.83 percent to 867 yen. (Reuters News)
>
Fujitsu+IBM versus NEC+Microsoft
Ray:
Id still feel better if you burned that stuff!
Henry
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:57:35 From: "Ray Wurlod"
For example there was an alliance between Ardent and Microsoft - Ive got a carry bag and tee shirt to prove it! Dont worry about it.
Id still feel better if you burned that stuff!
Henry
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:57:35 From: "Ray Wurlod"
For example there was an alliance between Ardent and Microsoft - Ive got a carry bag and tee shirt to prove it! Dont worry about it.
Last company I worked for had one in storage. I believe it had R83 on it and the system was about the size of a large pc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bacall"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Fujitsu+IBM versus NEC+Microsoft
> Dont know if anyone remembers it, but Fujitsu WAS a pick player a
> number
of
> years ago.
>
> Lee Bacall
>
> Binary Star Development Corporation
> http://www.binarystar.com
> Voice 954/791-8575 Fax 954/584-4567
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:52 PM
> Subject: OT: Fujitsu+IBM versus NEC+Microsoft
>
>
> > Would Fujitsus corporate culture really allow this to work? If so,
> > is information-technology supplier consolidation good for i.t.
> > end-users, too, or only for i.t. stock-holders?
> > -- Ben R.
> >
> > Edmund Klamann wrote:
> > > Fujitsu confirms IBM alliance talks
> > >
> > > Thursday, October 18, 2001 at 18:30 JST
> > >
> > > (Reuters) TOKYO -- Fujitsu Ltd, Japans largest computer company,
> > > said on Thursday it was in wide-ranging talks with International
> > > Business Machines Corp on possible cooperation in such areas as
> > > software and computer servers.
> > >
> > > It stressed, however, that no decisions had been made on any
> > > specific areas of cooperation or the timing of an agreement.
> > >
> > > Japans computer and chip conglomerates are actively pursuing
> > > alliances and restructuring schemes as they struggle with a steep
> > > downturn in chip and electronics sales and jostle for position in
> > > Japans fast-growing computer software and services market.
> > >
> > > "Both companies have begun to explore the possibility of alliances
> > > in individual business areas and cooperation in a wide array of
> > > fields, including hardware and software," Fujitsu said in a
> > > statement.
> > >
> > > Fujitsu and IBMs Japanese unit are among the leading providers of
> > > systems integration and other computer services to corporations
> > > and institutions in Japan.
> > >
> > > But competition has been heating up as rivals aggressively target
> > > the sectors relatively healthy profit margins while distancing
> > > themselves from the volatile chip business.
> > >
> > > "I think Fujitsu is probably losing market share in the systems
> > > integration business to NEC, IBM and perhaps Hitachi as well,"
> > > said Scott Foster, analyst at Lehman Brothers.
> > >
> > > "NECs got a very aggressive partner strategy with Oracle and
> > > Microsoft, and they sell Intel architecture products, and Hitachi
> > > works closely with Oracle and IBM and of course theyre doing very
> > > well in data storage now."
> > >
> > > NEC Corp , Japans largest personal computer maker, earlier this
> > > week announced an alliance with software powerhouse Microsoft Corp
> > > to jointly develop high-end computer server systems and services.
> > >
> > > Hitachi Ltd , which earlier this year inked a deal with IBM to
> > > cooperate in computer servers, has seen rapid growth this year in
> > > its data storage network business.
> > >
> > > And Oracle Corp Japan , the Japanese unit of software giant Oracle
> > > Corp., has posted strong profit growth this year fueled by brisk
> > > demand for business software and services.
> > >
> > > Some industry executives and analysts have said Fujitsu appeared
> > > less willing than rival computer services providers to package
> > > other firms products into the systems it sells. This could
> > > prevent it from offering the best product for a given system.
> > >
> > > "I think the trends have generally been against Fujitsu. The
> > > reason is probably they have tried too much to go it alone,"
> > > Lehman Brothers Foster said.
> > >
> > > The Nihon Keizai Shimbun business daily said Fujitsu and IBM could
> > > cut costs by more than 30 billion yen ($247.5 million) through
> > > joint software development, while IBM may share its personal
> > > computer server technology with the Japanese company.
> > >
> > > The market smiled upon news of the talks, with Fujitsus shares
> > > trading 0.5 percent higher, despite a drop of more than two
> > > percent in the benchmark Nikkei average.
> > >
> > > Hitachis shares slid 4.83 percent to 867 yen. (Reuters News)
> >
>
>
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bacall"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Fujitsu+IBM versus NEC+Microsoft
> Dont know if anyone remembers it, but Fujitsu WAS a pick player a
> number
of
> years ago.
>
> Lee Bacall
>
> Binary Star Development Corporation
> http://www.binarystar.com
> Voice 954/791-8575 Fax 954/584-4567
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:52 PM
> Subject: OT: Fujitsu+IBM versus NEC+Microsoft
>
>
> > Would Fujitsus corporate culture really allow this to work? If so,
> > is information-technology supplier consolidation good for i.t.
> > end-users, too, or only for i.t. stock-holders?
> > -- Ben R.
> >
> > Edmund Klamann wrote:
> > > Fujitsu confirms IBM alliance talks
> > >
> > > Thursday, October 18, 2001 at 18:30 JST
> > >
> > > (Reuters) TOKYO -- Fujitsu Ltd, Japans largest computer company,
> > > said on Thursday it was in wide-ranging talks with International
> > > Business Machines Corp on possible cooperation in such areas as
> > > software and computer servers.
> > >
> > > It stressed, however, that no decisions had been made on any
> > > specific areas of cooperation or the timing of an agreement.
> > >
> > > Japans computer and chip conglomerates are actively pursuing
> > > alliances and restructuring schemes as they struggle with a steep
> > > downturn in chip and electronics sales and jostle for position in
> > > Japans fast-growing computer software and services market.
> > >
> > > "Both companies have begun to explore the possibility of alliances
> > > in individual business areas and cooperation in a wide array of
> > > fields, including hardware and software," Fujitsu said in a
> > > statement.
> > >
> > > Fujitsu and IBMs Japanese unit are among the leading providers of
> > > systems integration and other computer services to corporations
> > > and institutions in Japan.
> > >
> > > But competition has been heating up as rivals aggressively target
> > > the sectors relatively healthy profit margins while distancing
> > > themselves from the volatile chip business.
> > >
> > > "I think Fujitsu is probably losing market share in the systems
> > > integration business to NEC, IBM and perhaps Hitachi as well,"
> > > said Scott Foster, analyst at Lehman Brothers.
> > >
> > > "NECs got a very aggressive partner strategy with Oracle and
> > > Microsoft, and they sell Intel architecture products, and Hitachi
> > > works closely with Oracle and IBM and of course theyre doing very
> > > well in data storage now."
> > >
> > > NEC Corp , Japans largest personal computer maker, earlier this
> > > week announced an alliance with software powerhouse Microsoft Corp
> > > to jointly develop high-end computer server systems and services.
> > >
> > > Hitachi Ltd , which earlier this year inked a deal with IBM to
> > > cooperate in computer servers, has seen rapid growth this year in
> > > its data storage network business.
> > >
> > > And Oracle Corp Japan , the Japanese unit of software giant Oracle
> > > Corp., has posted strong profit growth this year fueled by brisk
> > > demand for business software and services.
> > >
> > > Some industry executives and analysts have said Fujitsu appeared
> > > less willing than rival computer services providers to package
> > > other firms products into the systems it sells. This could
> > > prevent it from offering the best product for a given system.
> > >
> > > "I think the trends have generally been against Fujitsu. The
> > > reason is probably they have tried too much to go it alone,"
> > > Lehman Brothers Foster said.
> > >
> > > The Nihon Keizai Shimbun business daily said Fujitsu and IBM could
> > > cut costs by more than 30 billion yen ($247.5 million) through
> > > joint software development, while IBM may share its personal
> > > computer server technology with the Japanese company.
> > >
> > > The market smiled upon news of the talks, with Fujitsus shares
> > > trading 0.5 percent higher, despite a drop of more than two
> > > percent in the benchmark Nikkei average.
> > >
> > > Hitachis shares slid 4.83 percent to 867 yen. (Reuters News)
> >
>
>
>